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that and really concentrate the mind of these dopes in washington. >> wasn't it bob ruben who said during the clinton years -- or james carville -- the same thing. look what happened, clinton cut the rate and you had a huge rally in stocks and bonds. the stork market may do the same thing here. >> if you want to root for a bullish stock market, maybe in the short term, let's get a deal going and then do tax reform and entitlement reform. meantime, i think stocks are warping these guys you're going to put us on the precipice of a recession, and that's bad for earnings and stocks. >> the fed has done the same thing. they've come out in recent weeks and said instead of just buying $45 billion of bonds every month, we may have to double that and extend it out further. >> richard fisher of the dallas fed told me last night they don't do that. actually, that's not fair. he said in his opinion they shouldn't do that. we don't know, you might right. mike of "forbes," thank you very much. >>> this is truly the video of the day. the israelis get their man. the military head of hamas taken down with
question that i'm hearing from washington all the time. so let's talk. we have cnbc contributor jack bernstein, former chief economist, and art laffer, former reagan adviser. i'm not attacking obama or anything. i'm just saying there is a lot of talk of stalemate. well perhaps go through where, why and how. staffs have been meeting unsuccessfully. some people are saying, art, that the scenario is going to be that president finally throws up his hands and says there is no deal, we're going to have a stalemate and we will tall off the fiscal cliff into recession and then he will blame the republicans. what's your take? >> i think he's going to blame the republicans, larry, for sure. and i think in the republican's interest to delay it as long as possible and make the republicans look as uncooperative as possible. but we will fall off the cliff anyway, larry. and i think we will have a very bad year in 2013, even if they do extend all of the tax cuts. i think we have a real bad scenario coming forward. >> jared bernstein, what do you think that the president might go off the cliff. okay
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